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everything for everyone? there is probably not a missing link between hippie and healthcare but when the smoke clears we might find the missing joint and speaking of weed, don't miss dr. son jay gaup to's documenta documentary. the death toll climbs in egypt and pressure on president obama. with his life l girl's life on the line a father confronts chris christie for his signature, he wants her to be allowed the medical marijuana her parents say she desperately needs. later my conversation about oprah winfrey about the "n" word. the growing carnage in egypt and what, if anything, america can do to stop it. the second part of that, what to do is to say the least, the cost in human live social security plane to see.
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first, moments ago the muslim brotherhood spokesman announcing over twitter tomorrow will be quote a friday of anger, a day of anger, marches to head toward cairo center afternoon prayers. also tonight the death toll from yesterday's clashes revised upwards significantly. the state run tv station nile tv saying at least 580 people were killed in fighting yesterday and 4,000 wounded. 580 killed, 4,000 people wounded. eyewitnesss say the killing at the hands of government forces, many when troops and security forces firing live ammunition demolished a pair of protest camps in cairo. one piece of video surfacing today on youtube according to the new york times, it was taken during a military assault in a sit in outside a mosque. not easy to watch. might want to look away. a protester trying to carry a wounded man to safety and what
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happens next. at the time a woman who appears to have been recording the assault was shot. the times could not determine whether she, too, was a protester or journalist. reaction felt across egypt. this is is alexandria where thousands hit the trees. in gaza the local government headquarters came under attack who through cocktails and blocked the main road. members of the christian fifth surveyed the wreckage of their church. last night chanting for them to become an islamic state. one of at least two churches burned last night, a third set
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ablaze today. 600 people killed, 4,000 wounded. today the pentagon cancelled joint military exercises with egypt and president obama condemned the recent actions. he did not, however, condemn the regime itself. >> we don't take sides with any particular party or political figure. i know it's tempting inside of egypt to blame the united states or outside actor for what went wrong. we've been blamed by supporters of morsi. we've been blamed by the other side, as if we were supporters of morsi. that kind of approach will do nothing to help egyptians achieve the future that they deserve. >> ever since the camp david peace treaty in 1978 that's been coupled to the united states, especially the u.s. military with egypt receiving about a billion and a half dollars a
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year in aid. president obama has not cut off the money nor referred to the military take over as a coup which would shut off the dollars automatically. we got a full panel, arwa damon is there in cairo for us live, egyptian journalist mona eltahawy and robin wright and special news week and daily beast correspondent brian and former bush white house spokesperson. >> hundreds dead, thousands injured. can you take us through what happened there today and what to expect what was just announced, friday of anger? >> well, when we compare the situation to what took place yesterday, significantly calmer but that does not mean this crisis is by any stretch of the imagination over. the streets of cairo were pretty empty throughout the entire day. of course, the curfew in place. second night in a row with
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curfew and state of emergency, of course, to last for a month. you talked about the attacks on the churches there. we heard various reports that the number is much, much higher, at least 30 attacked across the down industry and many warned prior to the attack of the crack down this would be the type of spill over, rifle effect violence the country could expect to see in the aftermath. one of the many reasons people were trying to urge the government to continue to pursue a peaceful solution. the ministry of interp your also, anderson, announcing following a number of attacks on police stations and on government institutions that it would -- that it had authorized it's troops to use lethal force if such attacks took place. of course, everyone anxious what tomorrow will bring with mass demonstrations being called for by the muslim brotherhood, expected to take place after a noon prayer not too far from where we are now. >> mona, you say you support neither the military or muslim
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brotherhood. if you support beneath, r what are you left with? is that the problem there is polarized sides in egypt? >> absolutely, anderson. i support neither side but condemn the mass killing by security forces yesterday and condemn the attacks on churches across the country. the biggest and most urgent need right now is to stop the killing and blood because in one day yesterday, almost as many egyptians killed in that one day during the 18 days it took us to get rid of the other president. we need people, i personally support the decision yesterday to resign in protest at the mass killings in the violence. because i think he took a principal stand and we need more voices like him, which chis. the muslim brotherhood and military are not the only
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egyptians around there are many more. we need to hear someone in the camp say i reject violence in the security forces and the muslim brotherhood and say for the sake of egypt, the path they should be walking towards is freedom and recognizes all rights. the revolution did not call for an islamist state or military rule. >> the egyptian ambassador to the u.s. says this is the most serious injection in the last 30 years. >> absolutely and a challenge for the obama administration. it's the corner stone of u.s. relations since the peace treaty, since the egyptians walked away with the relationship with the soviet union. the president since the monarchy was ousted until mohamed morsi and this is a moment where the united states really has to review it's relations with egypt with the military, many of whose
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leaders were trained in the united states. tough decisions to make. what the president said today had tough words but the action was actually rather symbolic. tough questions about not just aid but actually whether the united states has enough influence to really make a difference because the military is basically sticking it to washington and as indicated it's prepared to take it's own action irrespectivetive of what it's allies or the international community has said in condemning what happened in the last week. >> president obama said today in part that the u.s. doesn't take sides with a party of political figure in egypt. do you buy that? >> that's the right thing to say and we should not take sides. we have two bad sides to take a choice between but took sides previously. this is the president that said president mubarak must go. we weighed in previously, just two years ago and now consequences not of what we did but egyptians are going through on on ourselves and the rest of
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the world. this is like the french revolution. this will shift back and forth between one poll and another poll. the monarchy against the revolutionaries here in egypt, the muslim brotherhood against the military. there is not much in the middle. and that is, i think, the reality of dealing with egypt. the united states role has to be symbolic because we don't have much influence. a difficult path for any president to walk. at the end of the day, as much as we don't like the military, the last thing we should want is the muslim brotherhood to return to power in egyptian. >> it's amazing to me how people like ari who said during the bush administration that the agenda was supposed to be democracy, when islamist parties win, all of a sudden say the most important thing is to prevent islamist parties to win. morsi wasn't a good leader and not my first candidate but the
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important thing is the united states does not rule out any political party. we simply support the principal of free elections, rule of law, and minority rights. the obama administration was played by the military, which made this big show of the idea it would over throw morsi and bring a return back to democracy. very rarely does that happen. it doesn't happen here and we should have been stronger. >> arwa, i wai i want you to re >> the -- >> the military. >> the middle east is people come to power through democracy or coup and become worse. that's what happened in iran in the 1970s and that would not represent peace and stability and be good for anybody in the region. >> robin, how -- where do you see this going? it's i'm bompossible to predict
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where do you see it? >> there are important turning points in the next few weeks. the new constitution is supposed to be announced by next wednesday and goes to a 50-member committee for review. the 50-member committee hasn't been formed or announce in anyway, and then the e gipgsgyp are supposed to have elections with a parliament and president within six months. the real danger is the principal, the whole process that's been laid out even in the last month since the coup is likely to be eroded. that events on the ground will over take any effort to get back to the democratic process and the danger is also that the military will not broker opposition or other voices when it comes to what is in the new contusion, whose allowed to run for parliament for the president. the exclusion of the muslim brotherhood or a party, whatever their political stripes would be -- would show the military would be once again very exclusive in power and that
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democracy is a dead issue in egypt again and that's a danger and a president for the whole region that's very dangerous. >> you know, mona, i think back to early on, people like that are on this program, people that rose up against the morsi government would rule the day they invited the military for a solution. is there a sense of regret there for some? >> i don't think that the military should play any role in egyptian politics, around sonde. they had to step down, which they did. but the egyptian military, and this is very ironic. the egyptian military over the past year we had morsi as a president it was strengthened by mohamed morsi, the president of the muslim brotherhood because the only two institutions during his time was the military and the muslim brotherhood. i wish the military had not had anything to do with the protest of june 30th, but it's very important to understand that general feeling we will face him
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with as much opposition as we showed to morsi and mubarak because we didn't call for an isl islamic state or military rule. the military now turning against them, this is why i keep insisting that there are more e gipgszs outside of this. i think the outside world thinks we're down in these two camps. we're not. we're more complex than that. human rights for everybody in egypt. this is what we should talk about not choose between the military and muslim brotherhood. >> arwa, you were there in 2011 during the heavy days of the revolution that over through mubarak. what are you hearing from people? what is it like there, especially with the day of anger called for tomorrow, what to expect? >> there's a lot of tension. there is a lot of anger and frustration and there is also you, anderson, you and the other journalist that covered 2011
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will remember quite well, anti-journalist sentiment, everybody angry at the press, especially the foreign media, no matter which side of the current crisis they are on. but, you know, most people, they just really want to see the country moving forward, the most critical thing for so many here right now is the economy. people really want to begin to live a descent, normal life. but as so many e gipgszs have been telling me, key to that, key to redefining this new egypt is for the population to begin to learn how to respect the other, rather than fear the other and they need to really figure out a way to end the culture that is perpetuated of d demonizing other people because they don't have the same idealology. this is a country emerging 30 years under mubarak and redefine and rebalance itself. >> arwa damon, appreciate you.
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thank you robin wright, let us know what you think, talk about it on twitter @andersoncooper is my at which timer address. a short temper, short tongue. not easy to confront chris christie but you'll meet a man that did. his 2-year-old daughter's life may depend on it. what this doctor is doing, lining pockets by pumping patients full of chemo, patients that didn't need it but didn't have cancer at all. "crime and punishment" when we continue. [ male announcer ] what's important to you? at humana, our medicare agents sit down with you and ask. being active. and being with this guy. [ male announcer ] getting to know you is how we help you choose the humana medicare plan
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in his compelling documentary "weed" he showed this girl that was having seizures. medical marijuana reduced to the a hand full. charlotte lives in colorado where it's legal. wilson who suffers from epilepsy lives in new jersey where it faces tighter restrictions. that could change if chris christie sign as bill on his desk that approves children to use an edible form of candice. doctors tried seven different drugs to treat the condition. cannabis may be her only alternative. he made the case to the governor one on one. >> i'm just wondering if i can have a half a minute? i've been trying to get in touch with you -- >> these are complicated issues. i know -- no, i know you think it's simple. >> very simple issues. >> i know you think it's simple.
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it's not. it's simple to you. it's not simple for me. >> we had experts -- from have you heard from our doctors? >> i read everything you put in front of me and have a decision by friday. i wish the best for you, your daughter and your family and i'll do what is best for the people in the state. >> do you think it's best for the governor and the doctors and patient sns. >> sir, i'm making -- i'm elected to make these decisions. i'll make the decisions and make it in time. >> is this a nanny -- >> don't let my daughter die. don't let my daughter die. please don't let my daughter die he said. governor christi's decision could come as soon as tomorrow. brian, you said to governor christi, please don't let my daughter die, governor x. plain to people why for your daughter medical marijuana could be the difference between life and death. >> well, every day vivian sumps
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seizures, some full, other small minor ones. those are all taking a toll on her body, her mind, her heart. she has stopped breathing several times during seizures. she can die of sudden unexplained death in epilepsy at any moment. there was a time period in april, there were four children who died. it's a real factor in this disorder. and unless we can control those seizures she's having, which the drugs, you know, the heavy pharmaceuticals she is on are failing to do. unless we can control those seizures, she stand as good chance like the other children of dying and medical marijuana, the high cbd, low thc strains have slohown great promise with the children taking them. we need to get her on it to save her life or she can die. >> i can't imagine what it's like to see this and for you. kids can be prescribed medical
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marijuana in new jersey right now. it's the current restrictions you take issue with, correct? >> correct. vivian has a medical marijuana card but the program in new jersey was pretty much regulated out of function nalty. nothing about the regulations really allow the program to exist and run. the bill that we have on the governor's desk right now is trying to help ease those regulations so they can actually become an operational program. and we just cannot get what she needs. we can't get any cbd strains. she would only be able to smoke it, if she got it. the restrictions for doctors for any other children who want to get on the program is hard. we're talking ability a medicine here. it should be treated like a medicine. it should be prescribed by a doctor and you should be able to get it in a strength and form. >> the idea you'll have a 2-year-old smoking marijuana is obviously ridiculous. the kind of marijuana you're talking about would be in an oil
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or throat lodge, right? >> vif wvian on her diet couldn take it. we're looking for an oil, butter, some sort of extract. the law doesn't allow for expects and we're trying to clang that so vivian and the patients can get it in the form you need. you can put anytime a gel cap. in colorado you get capsules, take two in the morning and at night. it's -- >> yeah, and -- >> it's medication. >> in los angeles, they have it in geletto or ice cream, something a 2-year-old would like. s sanjay i guess some people will say two years old that seems young to be taking medicine marijuana. >> you want to proceed with caution. there is data looking at seizure disorders overall. what brian is describing and i
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saw with young charlotte as well in the documentary is an intractable type of seizure where it's difficult to treat. brian is right, there is some data collected by doctors in colorado as well as some of the dispensary owners about 41 patients and i think 80% they said significant improvement. 80% had significant improvement. they need the other medications anymore. >> sanjay, not just charlotte but patients who have a significant problem here. this intrackable epilepsy. charlotte having 300 seizures a week and brian described what is happening with vif vvian and th
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have a problem and this cannabis and medical cannabis which is high cbd, low thc, that may sound like alphabet soup. thc is psycho active. they aren't getting high but getting a medicine n. charlotte's case she was taking an oil as brian described. this isn't someone smoking it. they got better from this when nothing else worked. >> brian, are you considering moving if he vetoes the bill? >> absolutely. you know, we've already been looking at, you know, areas to move to in colorado. there is actually quite a migration going on currently right after gupta's special aired. on facebook there was regular stranlts of people saying how do we get to colorado? a lot of parents with kids with these disorders are very, very interested. we demand our kids can be
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healthy and we can make those decisions with doctors about what is right with our children. >> brian, i'm so sorry you're in this situation. we'll continue to follow this. thank you for being with us and sanjaj as well. the cancer doctor facing horrific allegations. he's accused of purposing patients full of chemo they need and some didn't have cancer to line the pockets. plus my interview with oprah winfrey and forest whitaker. the backdrop for the butler and the charters used "n" word, that wasn't easy for oprah. here is her take. >> it's impossible for me to do it because i know the history, and i know that for so many of my relatives whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people i'm connected to, my ancestors that was the last word they
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welcome back. in "crime and punishment ". medical case as shocking as we've seen. a michigan cancer doctor is in jail on a 9 million dollar bond. the allegations against him in a 21-page complaint are horrific. he's accused of billing for
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unness su unnecessary test and chemotherapy, patients didn't need and some didn't have cancer at all. it's hard to imagine a doctor making up a cancer prognosis. authorities blew the whistle on him. brian tuck man reports. >> reporter: he felt and lump and he and his wife nancy went to see a dr. dr. fata. >> he said it was cancer and treatable with chemotherapy. >> reporter: she said she had a new job and would have insurance in days. your insurance kicked in? >> yes. >> reporter: you would pay with insurance? >> yes. >> reporter: he said it is better to have medicaid? >> those are his exact words. >> reporter: dr. fata wouldn't treat her husband until she was approved for medicaid which she
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didn't know at the time she was part of an elaborate medicare, medicaid scam that lined his pockets with tens of millions of dollars. >> every time we could go for a checkup or whatever, the first thing he would ask, have you heard from medicaid yet? no, we have not. well, we have to wait for that because treatments are very expensive. >> reporter: he wouldn't do any treatment? >> nothing. >> reporter: so your husband had this growing tumor and he said you need medicaid before we start? >> yes. >> reporter: she brought her husband to another facility where he was treated immediately and proficiently. and now federal investigators say nancy's story was the tip of the iceberg. according to the indictment, less than two weeks ago the fbi interviewed an oncologist that worked with dr. fata. they told the fbi dr. fata would give medically unnecessary or inappropriate doses and would
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give chemotherapy to all end of life patients instead of letting them die at peace. he's accused of diagnosing people with cancer that didn't have it. why in the world would he do that? simply put investigators say money. he charged medicare for the tune of $150 million since 2009 and collected $65 million of it, most of it fraud. money that was very possibly used for possessions like his suburban detroit mansion. it's not clear if he did the same with the medicaid program. the indictment also alleges the doctor told the patient who hit head in the office he needed chemo before he went to the emergency room. s jones was another patient. he was doing well without chemo and switched to dr. fata because he wanted a closer hospital. his son jeffrey said fata started an aggressive
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chemotherapy regular minute, aggressive and bizarre. >> somebody from his staff would come to the parking garage and give my dad the chemo while he sat in his car. >> reporter: fata was treating this like mcdonalds or burger king, you drive through and get a cancer treatment? >> i've heard it come parred to that already and it almost appears to us now as we think about it. >> reporter: now jeffrey is left with a memorial to his father. milton died four months after dr. fata started the aggressive chemo treatment. >> he died ultimately when his kidneys failed and shut down. he spent the last few hours of his life in excruciating pain on morphine. >> reporter: dennis recovered after he left dr. fata but two years later the cancer came back and spread and he, too, passed away. however nancy can't forget the week they did nothing about his cancer while agreeing for the request for medicaid to kick in. >> i want him to go to prison
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and think every day about what he's done to these people. >> i'm trying to cope with my father's death that happened in 2008 and it's like it's happening again. >> the allegations stunning. the indictment lists all sorts of things the doctor did. what stands out? >> the fbi says a medical assistant told them dr. fata once he started chemotherapy said you will have to under go chemotherapy the rest of your life and he owns a radiology center and according to the fbi medical system, fata would ask them to say these people had cancer even if they didn't so they would have to go to the radiology center. he is great dedy and wants mone from all areas. >> unbelievable. what is his lawyer saying? >> his lawyer is telling us, he can't talk he's in jail now. his lawyer is saying he's
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claiming he's innocent and will fight the charges. he's in jail on 9 million bond. if he wanted to bond out, he's not permited to use any of the ill gotten gains, the attorney is saying he doesn't have $9 million. for now he'll stay in jail. >> we'll continue to follow it. appreciate the reporting. coming up, my conversation about oprah winfrey and forrest wit ker. >> the truth of the matter is emmet teal was a symbol of those times like trayvon martin is for this time there are multiple trayvon martin's whose names don't make the newspapers or headlines. also ahead, the custody battle over veronica. the fight is not over but she may soon get to see those parents, the latest on that coming up. jackie: there are plenty of things i prefer to do on my own.
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a "360" interview with oprah winfrey. starting tomorrow she's back in movie theaters co-starring with fore forest whitker. more on that in a moment. first a clip on the movie based on a true story. forest whitaker served a president over three decades and how society and white house over that time affected his own family. >> what was the name of that movie, honey? >> in the heat of the night. >> in the heat of the night with sydney -- >> sydney pordia is a white man's fantasy of what he wants us to be. >> what are you talking about? >> he won the academy award. >> for being white? >> for acting white. >> sydney porter is nothing but original baton. look at you. all puffed up. hat on your head.
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come in here, saying whatever you want. you need to go. >> what? >> get the hell out of my house -- >> now everybody just sit down. >> i'm sorry, mr. butler, i didn't mean to make fun of your hero. >> everything you are and everything you have is because of that butler. >> i spoke at length to forest whitaker and oprah winfrey about the film and the trayvon martin case. here is the interview. you talk about this coming at an important time and there has been in the wake of the trayvon martin case a discuss about race in this country. i saw a gallup poll says this needs to be had. majority of whites says too much is being made of -- of this discussion of race. >> oh, i know. i know. i know. that's why i love the film in light of this discussion is because it brings context to the discussion. when you look at the film
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beginning with that lynching scene and ending with, you know, walking into obama's office, look at what has happened in the span of one man's lifetime in our country. >> this movie reminds us the circular motion working itself out is going on and we're looking at trayvon and oscar grant and all these situations and recognizing we have to move ourselves forward in this chain. in order for us to achieve potential or what we said we would do. >> the truth of the matter is emmet teal became a symbol of those times like trayvon martin for this time there are multiple trayvon martins whose names never make the newspapers or headlines. the circumstances surrounding that allowed it to be, but there were multiple emmet teals. there were multiple lynchings, there were multiple young black boys -- >> people's whose names are not remembered -- >> not remembered and not reported. >> it's interesting to me how
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people from different backgrounds see this. i talked to a juror on the trayvon martin case who clearly did not understand or did not feel linked to trayvon martin, felt connected to george zimmerman in a way but not to trayvon martin and i wonder if she felt race was not a part of this case at all. i'm just wondering -- >> people feel it's not race because they don't call it race. they don't say -- because you know what i found, too? a lot of people if they think they aren't using the "n" word themselves, they actually physically are not using the "n" word themselves and do not have harbor ill will towards black people, that it's not racist. but, you know, to me it's ridiculous to look at that case and not to think that race was involved. >> it's interesting you talk about the "n" word. in the film it's used early on not just by the guys on the plantation but lbj. >> uh-huh. >> in those lbj recording lgs you hear him use it and a scene
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people in the kitchen, i see him on tv saying negro -- >> ken -- >> what did he use that word? he uses the "n" word. >> yeah. >> was that hard for you? i know you speak about the importance of not using that word. >> it depends in the context of the time in which you were raised. i was raised in the '60 sglsh mississippi. >> not only that a student of my history. i said this many times, it's not a part of who i am to use that word. i understand why other people do. it's impossible for me to do it because i know the history, and i know that for so many of my relatives whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people who i'm connected to, ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up by a tree. that was the last sense of
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degradation that they experienced as, you know, some harm was caused to them. i just -- it's just not a part of the fabric of who i am. so out of respect to those who have come before and the price that they paid to rid themselves of being relegated to that word, i just don't use it. >> well, we had a fascinating conversation. we'll have more on my interview tomorrow on "360." it opens tomorrow. the custody battle over veronica may be near a breaking pointment the adopted parents are in oklahoma tonight trying to bring her home. the lawyers from both sides are talking. randi kaye has detail the on those talks ahead. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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tonight the bitter custody battle over a little girl named veronica is coming to a head in oklahoma. she's turning four. we knew her as baby veronica and watched her grow and now a preschooler. in june it opened the door to return her to the adoptive parents. they raised veronica for the first two years of her life. for the past 19 months she's been living in oklahoma with her biological father who is part cherokee. he challenged the adoption to keep indian fathers and mothers together.
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the biological father defy add court order to return her to the adopted parents. he was arrested and posted bond. the adoptive parents are in oklahoma demanding to take her home. neither side is backing down. randi kaye joins me now. >> reporter: anderson just more twists and turns to report tonight, anderson, here from tulsa, oklahoma. as you said, we've been following the story for years. they came here, they have been desperate to get their little girl back and hope to bring her from oklahoma to south carolina and all they found is more stone walling and the stand off continues. big news we spoke to the attorney for dustin brown, the biological father and he said he's offering a face-to-face meeting with the veronica and the couple. the couple have not committed and said yes. they want to know where it is and the circumstances. they don't want dustin brown but one on one time with veronica. i said does this mean he's willing to hand over custody to
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the couple? he said absolutely not. the attorney says he'll take to the the oklahoma courts. he'll fight it tooth and nail to the end. this is about letting them see her again, get reacquainted, say hello and spend time. he said there are a lot of steps that need to be taken if, he said if, anderson, if she's ever going to be handed back over to the couple. >> the supreme court ruled on this. can law enforcement move it along and return her to the adopted parents? >> reporter: that's what we wanted to know. we interviewed the sheriff and said if the couple has any attention of coming there in the middle of the night or cover of darkness to get veronica he'll arrest them and charge them with kidnapping. he said he's not taking sides but won't arrest dustin brown even though there is a warrant in south carolina related to the hand over. i asked him that question, why
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can't you get veronica and return her to the couple that are her legal parents and this is what he said. >> why can't you go and get veronica and bring her back to the adopted parent sns. >> the sheriff's office can only enforce state at the constitust orders of the court. so we cannot pick up a child and just give them to those people on south carolina's say so. they have to file a certain papers and do -- it's an adoption. file the right paperwork here to get their child back, or if that is their child, however the court rules. >> reporter: even though south carolina's court said the adoption is final and she does belong to them? >> absolutely. >> reporter: i also asked that attorney for dustin brown today to respond to the couple's plan. they have been saying all along we're not going to leave oklahoma without her. and he asked me very sarcast sarcastically are they planning to shop for a house, buy a
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house? indicating the couple is in for a very long fight, anderson. >> is it clear where veronica is? >> reporter: not really. we want to dustin brown's house today. there was a truck in the driveway. we knocked on the door. there weren't children's toys outside and nobody came to the door. i can tell you there is someone friendly with the couple, he calls himself a reunion facilitator and done this before. he got a tip where dustin brown was. he went there. it turns out he's on triable land in this house. he was stopped by triable marshalls and sent a note trying to create a dialogue, without the lawyers, have a conversation with dustin brown about this and dustin brown sent a note back saying i have no interest to talk to you. veronica could be in that house on triable land supposedly with her biological grandparents. that's what dustin brown is telling us. susan hendrix joins with us a 360 news bulletin.
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a second hostage shot in st. joseph, louisiana died. the gunman was also killed when police stormed the building late tuesday night. a third hostage was freed. the ntsb has found no evidence of engine failure f a fire aboard the ups cargo plane before it crashed in bier hinal. they hope to recover clues from the recorders that were recovered. a "360" followup. a picture of determination that is jane richard with her new prosthetic leg. her family is inspired by her recovery but admit the emotional pain of losing her brother in the attack is every bit as new as four months ago that is martin in the far left in that picture. take a look at this, the smithsonian institution announced the discovery of a new species, a member of the raccoon family found in ecuador and
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ran out of time for "the ridiculis ridiculist". see you at 10:00 p.m. eastern. piers morgan starts now. this is piers morgan live. welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. days after her rescue from the violent predator she makes the first public appearance for a fundraiser for her family. listen to her father. >> hanna sends her love and doing good day by day. we'll keep moving forward from here. thank you very much. >> much more tonight, including the question whether should be should be protecting hanna's priva privacy. fears of another day of violence across egyptian for a friday of anger on the bloody prreets of cairo.